聊一聊多伦多大学超过康乃尔,宾夕法尼亚大学等常春藤联盟
小河沟,2013-03-18
英国Times的2013年全球名校名誉排名,加拿大的多伦多大学北美排名12名,在康乃尔大学(北美13),宾大(北美14)等美国藤校前面。UBC北美第22,超美国 乔治亚理工学院 , 西北大学,加州大学-圣地牙哥分校, 杜克大学,威斯康星麦迪逊大学, 伊利诺伊大学香槟分校,明尼苏达大学,马里兰大学,布朗大学, 南加州大学,普渡大学, 密歇根州立大学,亚利桑那大学等美国名校。
其实多大, 麦基尔, UBC 等加拿大名校上世纪六,七十年代就是与哈佛,耶鲁,剑桥,牛津等齐名的世界一流名校。只是进入九十年代,美国大学太强势, 让人忘了加拿大还有好大学。
加拿大的UBC一直都有诺贝尔奖级别的大师,其科研教学长期是世界级的水平。十多年前,笔者在UBC和爱伯特大学工作时, 个人感觉这两所加拿大大学比美国华盛顿大学还好些, 不比斯丹福与柏克萊差。加拿大大学大都是小班教学,图书馆不用排队, Cafeteria吃饭不用等,比美国大学动辄200-300人的大课效果好很多。
美国大学管理混乱, 滥发文凭也是其排名下降的原因。康乃尔可能是藤校中入学门槛最低, 要求最低,最容易拿文凭的大学。所以,康乃尔的毕业生要么超强, 要么特弱,质量无法保证。宾夕法尼亚大学也是这样, 感觉学校把大量精力用在招生宣传上, 很少在提高教学质量上花功夫,校园周围的社会治安让人担忧。“金玉其外,败絮其中”,排名下降时自然而然的。当然,排名有个缺点,一个大学排名上升,其他大学排名必然下降,排名下降并不意味着大学质量下降。
加拿大的大学不图虚荣,不做面子功夫,务实,把主要精力花在提高学生培养质量上。学费比美国便宜,到加拿大读大学还值得的。
(25分钟完成初稿)
Chatting on U.T. beating Cornell , U. of Penn.
The Times ranked the University of Toronto in front of Cornell, University of Penn. UBC is ranked 22th beating Georgia Tech, Northwestern, San Diego, Duke, Wisconsin-Madison, UIUC, Minnesota, Maryland, Brown, Southern California, Purdue, Michigan State, Arizona.
In fact, University of Toronto, McGill and UBC were the best university in the world that could compare with Harvard, Yale, Cambridge and Oxford in the 60s and 70s. The US Universities improved so aggressively that the world forgot the Canadian Universities in the 90s.
There were always Nobel prize winners in UBC , which had been providing the top-notch education. I compared the US and Canadian Universities when I was working in UBC and University of Alberta 10 years ago, UBC was even better than most US Universities, almost as good as Stanford and Berkeley. The Canada Universities provided the small classes teaching, much better than the 200-300 students lectures of US colleges. The library was not so busy as the US ones, you did not need to wait a long time to eat in the cafeteria.
The US universities were somewhat disorganized, money talked there, diplomas were so easy to obtain. The Cornell might be the easiest Ivy college to get in and to graduate. The various quality of Cornell students might be the reason of low rank. Univ. of Penn was the same problem, it spent a lot of money on the advertisements rather than the qualities of teaching, a Apple of Sodom. Of course, there is a disadvantage of ranking, the ranking high does not only relate to the quality of the schools.
In general, the Canada Universities do not focus on the vanities, in other words, they do not pay more attention to face and facework rather than being realistic to improve the teaching quality. The tuition fee is relatively more economic than the US ones, that is, it is worth studying in the Canada Universities.
(25 minutes translation)
小河沟,2013-03-18
英国Times的2013年全球名校名誉排名,加拿大的多伦多大学北美排名12名,在康乃尔大学(北美13),宾大(北美14)等美国藤校前面。UBC北美第22,超美国 乔治亚理工学院 , 西北大学,加州大学-圣地牙哥分校, 杜克大学,威斯康星麦迪逊大学, 伊利诺伊大学香槟分校,明尼苏达大学,马里兰大学,布朗大学, 南加州大学,普渡大学, 密歇根州立大学,亚利桑那大学等美国名校。
其实多大, 麦基尔, UBC 等加拿大名校上世纪六,七十年代就是与哈佛,耶鲁,剑桥,牛津等齐名的世界一流名校。只是进入九十年代,美国大学太强势, 让人忘了加拿大还有好大学。
加拿大的UBC一直都有诺贝尔奖级别的大师,其科研教学长期是世界级的水平。十多年前,笔者在UBC和爱伯特大学工作时, 个人感觉这两所加拿大大学比美国华盛顿大学还好些, 不比斯丹福与柏克萊差。加拿大大学大都是小班教学,图书馆不用排队, Cafeteria吃饭不用等,比美国大学动辄200-300人的大课效果好很多。
美国大学管理混乱, 滥发文凭也是其排名下降的原因。康乃尔可能是藤校中入学门槛最低, 要求最低,最容易拿文凭的大学。所以,康乃尔的毕业生要么超强, 要么特弱,质量无法保证。宾夕法尼亚大学也是这样, 感觉学校把大量精力用在招生宣传上, 很少在提高教学质量上花功夫,校园周围的社会治安让人担忧。“金玉其外,败絮其中”,排名下降时自然而然的。当然,排名有个缺点,一个大学排名上升,其他大学排名必然下降,排名下降并不意味着大学质量下降。
加拿大的大学不图虚荣,不做面子功夫,务实,把主要精力花在提高学生培养质量上。学费比美国便宜,到加拿大读大学还值得的。
(25分钟完成初稿)
Chatting on U.T. beating Cornell , U. of Penn.
The Times ranked the University of Toronto in front of Cornell, University of Penn. UBC is ranked 22th beating Georgia Tech, Northwestern, San Diego, Duke, Wisconsin-Madison, UIUC, Minnesota, Maryland, Brown, Southern California, Purdue, Michigan State, Arizona.
In fact, University of Toronto, McGill and UBC were the best university in the world that could compare with Harvard, Yale, Cambridge and Oxford in the 60s and 70s. The US Universities improved so aggressively that the world forgot the Canadian Universities in the 90s.
There were always Nobel prize winners in UBC , which had been providing the top-notch education. I compared the US and Canadian Universities when I was working in UBC and University of Alberta 10 years ago, UBC was even better than most US Universities, almost as good as Stanford and Berkeley. The Canada Universities provided the small classes teaching, much better than the 200-300 students lectures of US colleges. The library was not so busy as the US ones, you did not need to wait a long time to eat in the cafeteria.
The US universities were somewhat disorganized, money talked there, diplomas were so easy to obtain. The Cornell might be the easiest Ivy college to get in and to graduate. The various quality of Cornell students might be the reason of low rank. Univ. of Penn was the same problem, it spent a lot of money on the advertisements rather than the qualities of teaching, a Apple of Sodom. Of course, there is a disadvantage of ranking, the ranking high does not only relate to the quality of the schools.
In general, the Canada Universities do not focus on the vanities, in other words, they do not pay more attention to face and facework rather than being realistic to improve the teaching quality. The tuition fee is relatively more economic than the US ones, that is, it is worth studying in the Canada Universities.
(25 minutes translation)